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US Congress members, Nuland and Pyatt discuss who to place in power in Ukraine

Nuland: What do you think

Pyatt: I think we’re in play. the Klitschko piece is obviously the complicated electron here, especially the announcement of him as deputy prime minister and you’ve seen some of my notes on the troubles in the marriage right now. So we’re trying to get a read really fast on where he is on this stuff, but I think your argument to him, which you’ll need to make.

I think that’s the next phone call we want to set up, is exactly the one you made to Yats (Arseniy Yatsenyuk) and I’m glad you sort of put him on the spot, on where he fits in this scenario and I’m very glad he said what he said in response.

Nuland: Good. So, I don’t think Klitsch should go into the government. I don’t think it’s necessary. I don’t think it’s a good idea.

Pyatt: Yeeeah… I mean, I guess… You think what in terms of him, not going into the government -just let him sort of stay out and do his political homework and stuff. I’m just thinking in terms of sort of the process moving ahead, we want to keep the moderate democrats together. The problem is going to be Oleh Tyahnybok and his guys and you know, I’m sure -that’s part of what (President Viktor) Janukovitj is calculating on all of this. Ahh… I kind of…

Nuland: [interrupts] I think Yat is the guy, who’s got the economic experience, the governing experience. He’s the guy… You know, what he needs is Klitsch and Tyahnybok on the outside, he needs to be talking to them four times a week. You know, I just think Klitsch going in, he’s going to be at that level. Working for Yatsenyuk it’s just not going to work.

Pyatt: Yeah… No, I think, that’s… I think, that’s right – Okay good, well do you want us to try to set up a call with him as the next step?

Nuland: My understanding from that call. But you tell me… Was that the big three, were going into their own meeting and that Yats, was going to offer in that context; a three-way, you know -three plus one conversation or three plus two with you. When I talked to Jeff Feltman (UN) this morning, he had a new name for the UN guy, Robert Serry. Did I write you that this morning?

Pyatt: Yeah, I saw that.

Nuland: He’s now gotten both Serry and Ban Ki-moon (UN Secretary General), to agree that Serry could come in Monday or Tuesday.

Pyatt: Okay

Nuland: So that would be great, I think… To help glue this thing and have the UN help glue it -and you know – FUCK THE EU